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During a meeting in Ramallah with members of the Council for Peace and Security (who include former top IDF officers ), Abbas declared that the PA intends to work toward the establishment of a Palestinian state, and to win Israeli recognition for such a state. However, he indicated, if no accord is reached between the two sides, and if serious talks do not resume, the PA will turn to the UN General Assembly in September and request recognition of an independent Palestinian state.
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas
Photo by: ReutersAsked about possible scenarios following such a UN vote, Abbas claimed he is deliberately maintaining ambiguity on this issue. Yet, he said, "should we return [from the United Nations] empty-handed, we will convene a meeting of the Palestinian leadership and decide what to do. We have autonomous rule, but we don't have independence. There is and isn't occupation. The [Israeli occupiers] can come at any moment. They can invade our territories. They can do anything. They can even stop me, as head of the PA, from going home."
"So what are we supposed to do?" he asked. "What should be our answer, if we have lost all hope? I can't respond to that."
Abbas reiterated that the PA will only turn to the UN General Assembly if it runs out of all other options.
"If you [Israelis] do not want negotiations, and don't want an accord, then what are we supposed to do?" he said. "We have imposed order and security here for the past four years, and things are stable now: There is law and order, the economy is progressing, life is normal everywhere in the West Bank. Please, you must take advantage of the opportunity to continue [with talks]. If [the Israelis] don't want [talks], then we will leave. We will leave."
When asked by Haaretz whether he means by these statements that the Palestinian Authority will be disassembled, Abbas responded that he did not say that. He clarified that under the present circumstances, the question "why continue this way" is asked repeatedly.
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Subject: Comment: Reply again LatestMost ViewedMost RatedOpen all 43.00View >Yes, its about time to start using 'Palestinian Jews'! Paul Brill 31.03.11 09:26 Go for it Mr. Abbas! And please start using the term Palestinian Jewsistead of settlers. Just state in the media that as soon as the UNrecognizes the Palestinian State, all Jewish settlers living on theWest-Bank will become Palestinian Jews which have to sign a loyalityoath. Viva Palestine!
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 42.00View >Even in Sweden where I live there are leaders that like childrenthreaten with their resignation unless they get their will through. Whenit comes to the point they never quit or become humble afteroverestimating their own importance. They don't continue with their craponce more disgraced. I hope one day all those "leaders"realize this and their backs break. They are to serve not to impose ontheir givers of government. Oriv 31.03.11 09:15Even in Sweden where I live there are leaders that like childrenthreaten with their resignation unless they get their will through. Whenit comes to the point they never quit or become humble afteroverestimating their own importance. They don't continue with their craponce more disgraced. I hope one day all those "leaders"realize this and their backs break. They are to serve not to impose ontheir givers of government.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 41.00View >What peace talks? Chrystal 31.03.11 09:08The Palestinians are refusing to talk, remember? And why should they?President Barack Obama promised them a state no matter what. Its all asad joke.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 40.00View >Just dismantle it Froy 31.03.11 09:00Stop giving away empty threats and dismantle the PA once and for all.That entity has become one more tool of the occupation, allowing Israelto keep Palestinian under an apartheid regime with the pretense ofself-government, and on the cheap! Let it collapse and start asking forequal rights for all from the river to the sea!
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 39.00View >a week is along time in politics, with apologies to a kgb spy anti-b/s league 31.03.11 08:44september is along way off and the arab world is in stress ! perhaps thenew regime in arab palestine jordan will welcome the pa and its arabswith open arms ?
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 38.00View >"Current order" Does that include the baby killers of theFogel family? Deliberately killing a helpless captive baby is his ideaof order? How is that different from Hamas "order" PETER SM 31.03.11 08:41Was it moonlighting PA ,armed trained and paid for by the USA
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 37.00View >Peace? Fredy Ross 31.03.11 08:30Without Hamas how can Israel make peace? Fatah is talking nonsense asfirst they have to bring Hamas into the fold and that doesn't seemlikely in the near future with all the rockets we are getting.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 36.00View >Clock is ticking, new opportunity for peace. Jared 31.03.11 08:07Yet again, zionists in this talkback are criticizing Abbas and spittingout their hatred against arabs and their intention not to have peace.Stop bringing up the PAST! If you keep living in the past, nothing willbe achieved! In the Second World War 50 MILLION PEOPLE died, yet therewas peace, the parties stopped blaming the others for starting the war!The Pals will establish a state, let's see how it turns out to be. Dontprejudge it from now saying it will attack Israel. The day the israelisand palestinians stop blaming each other is the day they will achievepeace. Now that there is an opportunity for peace, Abbas clearlyoffers negotiations with Israel. Now, it's up to Israel to show us ifits really interested in peace or not.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 35.10View >This threat is exactly why Israel can't hand over a state Dan 31.03.11 07:47Abbas is saying that if he doesn't get what he wants, he will letterrorism return. Does he really not understand that that is terrorismin itself? This flopping back and forth between a facade of reason oneday and irrational threats (and actions) the next is exactly why Israelcan't over the West Bank; two minutes after it withdraws, it could finda new, larger, worse Gaza on its eastern border. Until the Palestiniansrenounce their Hamas wing and their long record of aggression, andcredibly commit themselves to long term peace, Israel would be mad totake the risk.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 34.00View >Who will name his successor?Assad or Ahmadinejad Abbas will be remembered as a peace resistor 31.03.11 07:16who did nothing to promote peace with Israel. Typical Arab who had to beforced to say English word Peace while he was yelling in Arabic"We'll sacrifice victims until Jerusalem is ours." repeatedly.Palestinians don't love peace.They love Jewish land and there won't stopkilling Jews until they get it all....
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 33.00View >peace talks fail? Dan 31.03.11 06:59What kind nonesense is this? The peace talks failed because thePalestinians never entered into them with sincerrity and honesty. Theyreject every proposal and every condition. Israel and the Israeli mediashould expose this lie to the UN
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 32.00View > one state solution palestinian 31.03.11 06:56let us be free from religious and ethnic prejudice,one secular anddemocratic state where equal rights for every one and the right ofreturn for both jews and palestinians are guaranteed..this is the mostviable solution.l prefer to live under a progressive secular jewishpresident who believes in equality and social justice for all ratherthan living under reactionary palestinian
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 31.10View >Abbas you are wasting your time ,Israel does not want peace ,we havebeen talking for more than 20 years we are losing more land everyday,lets not fool ourselves . mohamed ali usa 31.03.11 06:45 Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 30.00View >No Evidence of Israeli Gov Intent Mark of Lewiston 31.03.11 06:40There is no evidence the current Israeli government intends to allow orrecognize an independent or sovereign Palestine ever. And Abbas meansthat by leaving, quitting his job, not departing for another country.It might be easier if the 2.5 million Palestinians in the West bank,just submit the paperwork for Israeli citizenship and the vote now. Andfold their security forces since tranquility just means fastersettlement building and faster land theft. Close the schools and layoff the police and fire and close the hospitals. let the occupation bepaid for by the Israeli government in its entirety and stop beingsurrogate occupiers receiving EU and US assistance. And toss out UNRWA,it absorbs Israeli costs.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 29.00View >Aside from their problems with Hamas, the PA has fulfilled much oftheir Road Map obligations... Smadar 31.03.11 06:19and Israel can't really claim that it has committed to the Quartet's (EU, Russia, UN, USA) peace proposal of the Road Map. The only peaceproposal on the table which is under an international sponsored peaceplan for the Middle East is the Road Map of 2004. The PA was pressuredto abide to the terms of this proposal for the creation of a sovereign,independent Palestinian state. It's highly unlikely that theinternational community will not endorse a Palestinian state based onthe 1967 borders with minor territorial exchanges because that's thepremise of that peace proposal.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 28.00View >"BALESTINIANS " FANTACIES NEVER MISS TO MISS OPPORTUNUTY Moussa Ahmed 31.03.11 06:18Palestinian state is nothing but absudities and fantasies from Lalalandthat can only exist on the ruins of the GREAT Nation Israel. Nointernational laws or pursustions will erase this fact. Let all th eworld join in the bandwagon of these dreamers and the circus will go onfor yet another 60 years. You cannot erase history(Israel) by thetoothless UN treaties. Stand Firm Israel on what was given to you evenb4 the UN or Abbas/ Arafat, etc were born. The civilized are behind you
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 27.00View >They Need 'Local Autonomy' Brendan 31.03.11 05:59Local Autonomy
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 26.00View >Instead of Obama, they could have given the Noble prize to Netanyahu!!! zulu 31.03.11 05:58 Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 25.00View >Abbas needs recognize the occupation is permanent Eric T 31.03.11 05:57Abbas should disband the P.A. and Palestinians should be given Israelicitizenship.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 24.10View >Threats, ultimatums andnon-negotiable demands. Once a terrorist, alwaysa terrorist. Time to take "independent PA state off the table. OneNort Korea, threatening everybody to meet its crazy demands, is enough. Dr. L. Brnd 31.03.11 05:44Time to go back to the original Oslo formula - semi-autonomousPalestinian self-rule only. Statehood put off for 2-3 decades until theydemonstrate their commitment to peaceful coexistence - not Intifadas andJihad every time someting doesn't go their way. There is no point evendiscussing a state for them until they agree that they must recognizeIsrael as the Jewish Peoples' State and drop their idiotic "Rightof Return" nonsense (or why do they need a state?).
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 23.12View >So why doesn't Abbas come to negotiate? George 31.03.11 05:21He is the one who withdrew from peace negotiations.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 22.12View >If peace talks fail? Seriously? Baloney 31.03.11 05:15The headline for this article is laughable. What the heck makes Abbasthink that the peace talks have been successful up to this very minutein time? Talk about living in denial! Whether the Israelis come to thenegotiating table in September or not is irrelevant. You and yourcontingent of like-minded politicians have FAILED your people. Accept itand move on so that others who actually give a damn about thePalestinians can take over.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 21.00View >Palestinians to ask for UN recognition if peace talks fail, says Abbas jake 31.03.11 05:08A muted mention is all that's required. The only priority now is freeand fair elections.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 20.00View >the Occupying Power cinderella 31.03.11 05:00"She knew at midnight that everything was going to turn intopumpkins and mice, but it was just so much damn fun, dancing there."
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 19.10View >peace mimi 31.03.11 04:58Then stop the terrorists so israel can feel safe
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 18.00View >its time to finish what sharon started... ben 31.03.11 04:56 Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 17.01View >The one-state solution is not possible because Palestinians will NEVERhave equal rights under a Zionist government. 005veiK 31.03.11 04:53To be honest, not even Jews have equal rights in Israel, as some Jewsare deemed to be more "Jewish" than others. For instance,Hasidic Orthodox Jews may not accept Reform Jews or converts to Judaismas equals.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 16.1328View >The Pals should follow Israel's example in 1947 MARK KLEIN, M.D. 31.03.11 04:47Israel had no chance to gain all of Eretz Israel from the UN in 1947 sothe Yishuv settled for half a loaf rather than nothing.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >The Yishuv did not settle for half a loaf,the Arabs got 80% of theBritish mandate even before 1947. They keep forgetting to weep over thatpart or calling for their own state of Palestine on parts Arabs havealready,its the Jewish bit that bothers them and their fellowtravellers.Somehow only PETER SM 31.03.11 08:00the Jewish part is Palestine
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >So now the Pals have to settle for a few slices of the loaf?! Esther R 31.03.11 08:42 Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 15.3837View >"If you [Israelis] do not want negotiations, and don't want anaccord, then what are we supposed to do?" How typical !! Theyrefuse to turn up to the negotiating table and they have the hide toblame Israel who has been calling for and is ready to negotiate .!!Blame shifting that makes Assad look like an amateur. PETER SM 31.03.11 04:43Never wrong always somebody else.!
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >Netanyahu Dictates, Refuses to Negotiate Mark of Lewiston 31.03.11 07:11He refused to even allow his people to touch a PA proposal. And hisspeeches set out a plan for no independence and no sovereignty ever for Palestinians.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >Evidence of Intent Mark of Lewiston 31.03.11 07:16Netanyahu has given Abbas no evidence of an intent to negotiate. hedoesn't even mouth the platitudes of Sharon about sacrifice, as ifrecognizing the terms of a Geneva Convention was a sacrifice. Why didthe Israeli gov sign it and ratify it if there was no intent to followthe convention?
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >Israel is always ready to negotiate O 31.03.11 07:49For a very loooong time, while building many new settlements.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >What is the point Simon 31.03.11 08:09of Abbas turning up to the negotiatiing table when Netanyahu refuses toeven look at the Palestinian proposition for peace. The world knowsfull well that it is Israel that is refusing to negotiate in good faithand will act accordingly at the UN General Assembly in September.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >Because.. Eric 31.03.11 08:36Israel is to blame, we can say it again and again here, it won't changea thing. Israel is the one blocking everything. And btw, you wouldn'tnegotiate to buy a car, when the vendor is actually selling it in piecesas you speak.....
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 14.1287View >Why wait til September??? e l pratt 31.03.11 04:40Since Abbas will not bring anything new to the table, he should quitnow. He could be hailed as a hero if he just threw in the towel and ledhis Arabs back to Jordan.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt11View >Heads up! Palestinians are no more Jordanian than Americans areCanadian. Melissa 31.03.11 05:41 Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt01View >Rest assured they aren't going anywhere. You may dream of transfer butit will never happen, ultimately they will either be people of thePalestinian state or your fellow citizens, one or the other... get usedto it. Victor 31.03.11 06:00 Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt01View >Because by then the international community will have been thoroughly convinced oops! 31.03.11 06:12by Bibi and his bunch, that the time has come to do what should havebeen done years ago!
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >September George 31.03.11 06:17Why wait till September declare a Palestinian state now. As your commentproves that it's the Jewish sentiment to delay and delay. BeforeSeptember comes Israel will find yet another means to avoid any realpeace with the palestinians either by starting another war or anothertrick to keep the media misguided.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >Jordan Froy 31.03.11 08:41Don't delude yourself. Palestinians will never go "back" toJordan, because they never came from Jordan in the first place. Theywere born West of the river just like all their known ancestors, andthey will remain in Palestine, their homeland, whatever you say, stateor no state. So the question is: do you want them to have their ownstate, or do you want them to become Israeli citizens with full rights?Those are the only two options.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 13.343View >this subject is boring already harzion 31.03.11 04:32 Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt20View >Peace is exciting. Harzion's racist comments are boring. Oren 31.03.11 05:36 Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 12.1264View >5 minutes after "peace" is reached Hamas will be tossingAbbas-supporters off the roofs of West Bank houses, rockets will be ableto reach new parts of Israel, and the hate-Israel crowd will be thinkingof new excuses for the Palestinians. john 31.03.11 04:22So long as Hamas rules and the Palestinian people don't want peace,there is really little to talk.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >you are an nidiot john...have replace reality with your indecent fantasys you will be amoung the missing and forgotten 31.03.11 05:40 Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >Israel's true fear is that the rockets won't fall. 005veiK 31.03.11 07:17If no rockets come, Israel will not have an excuse to invade again andtake back what it covets.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >Typical diasporic fears reader10 31.03.11 08:09Israel is not another russian shtetl on the eve of a pogrom."Taking the Jews out of Galuth has been easier than removing Galuthout of them." (David Ben Gurion)
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >Genius, how do the Palestinian people not want peace? Yakov 31.03.11 08:31They're in the streets every day calling for peace. The Israelis are theones that don't give a damn. And unless your name is Marty McFly zippingthrough time and space in a Delorean, you have no idea what will happen"5 minutes after peace is reached."
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >Hamas Froy 31.03.11 08:37Not if you let them reach a national-unity agreement
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 11.612View >'order and security' for four years, settlement grows, talks fail panim 31.03.11 04:21Now let freedom ring from the very hilltops to the wadis... equalrights for all.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 10.1085View >Mr Abbas be a leader and take advantage while you can. Robert 31.03.11 04:12If Mr. Abbas and the PA want their own state they should immediatelystart negotiations with Israel. The false pretence of settlementbuilding is preventing them from negotiations is obvious from theleaked Palestinian papers. Therefore instead of playing politics andtrying to unilaterally establish a state which Israel will not recognizeor allow. Let all parties move forwards with serious negotiations andcompromises so all parties achieve their goals.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt203View >Negotiations while settlement activity is still going on? I stronglyurge you to read some. lol 31.03.11 04:52Akiva Eldar's exhaustive book is a good place to start reading.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >Negotiations while settlement activity is still going on? I stronglyurge you to read some. lol 31.03.11 04:53Akiva Eldar's exhaustive book is a good place to start reading.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt10View >What is Israel currently offering, is there a map? is it even close tooffer of 2yrs ago or even 10yr ago. Bloodyscot 31.03.11 05:05Can the current Israeli Gov. offer much more than the A areas withoutnew elections?
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >will you smile and talk to a thief when he steal your belongings? zulu 31.03.11 05:57 Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 9.6310View >leve us alone mike 31.03.11 03:52we palestinians want this man to leve we want one country for both jewsand arabs just like the u.s we can vote and chose our leaders . so isay israel take us in and give us papers becouse thats whats going tohapen becouse of bibi
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >Three state solution... Why one when you can have three? More is Better. Ahmed Yahya 31.03.11 06:32There is no way one state can accomodate both Jews and So called"palestinians". Light and darkness cannot co-exist. The arabsshould reclaim Jordanian citizenship solution. All that is needed ispopulation transfer to Jordan and Egypt for those occupying Israellands including WB and East Jerusalem .Period!!!. Abbas it time to packyou bags and head to Amman.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 8.576View >Peace will protect Israel Jimmy 31.03.11 03:50Time has changed,Israel has no other choice.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >Peace and Safety scott 31.03.11 04:59When they cry peace and safety then will come sudden destruction..Blessed it the man that is not condemned for what he approves
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 7.1572View >Abbas, Nice Suit, Nice Tie, Nice Haircut, But Downright Ugly Historical& Spiritual Revisionist Leader Inciting To Hatred & Murder Lavi - Seattle 31.03.11 03:39Happy upcoming 63rd Birthday Israel! We're glad you earlier accepted tohumbly establish a Jewish State in the sliver of the land allotted toyou and didn't proclaim a bloody, covetous war and massacre against thePalestinians on the order of the Crusades, as did your jealous enemiesagainst you when they gambled greatly and lost as G-d blessed you andcursed them as a witness to the world. Now the stubborn, losing sidewants yet another handout from the UN, this time the collective turningback of the clock to June 4th, 1967 when Jerusalem was scarred anddivided so they can establish a Palestinian State in that area of landthat wasn't at all appealing for them at that time, especially whenconquering the whole land seemed like a more lofty goal and a muchbetter idea to jump start prosperity and prestige. Abbas, you haven'teven started to use your UN leverage to budge Jerusalem but when you tryand do, you'll all receive such a collective physical and spiritualstrain in your backs that you'll be seeking medical help, but it won'tbe forthcoming.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt4913View >what a vivid imagination you have....no sense of history but i can tellyou believe it all...and complete non sense how do you get by? on US welfare? 31.03.11 04:32 Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >How..., Have You Got Something To Say Or Are You Just Flapping Your Gums Again? Lavi - Seattle 31.03.11 05:31Let's hear your history of the area as an armchair airhead who is toocheap to travel over there and learn some facts firsthand.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >You talking about Abbas? The settler leaders? Or Bibi Mileikowsky? Melissa 31.03.11 05:49 Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >He is right about one thing. the palestinians could have claimedindependence when israel did Jon 31.03.11 06:37But they wanted to wait till the arab countries stole their land backand then claim independence. The land that the jews were given. And theygot their butts kicked in and lost more land. they got greedy and nowlook at their country. They cant even get along with eachother. How arethey supposed get along with israel
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >U.S. Welfare Mary Hughes-Thompson 31.03.11 07:31That's how Israel gets by after all.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >NICE SUIT ,NICE TIE DAVIS 31.03.11 08:22WHEN YOU TALK LIKE THIS , I REMEMBER SHARON, SHAMIR AND BEGIN.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >Lavi's post makes sense and is historically accurate, you on the otherhand make no sense at all. PETER SM 31.03.11 09:23You attempts at denial of Arab genocidal intent is pathetic
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 6.6016View >Desperation Mark Lincoln 31.03.11 03:36Of course peace talks will fail. Netanyahu wants to be Prime Ministerand if he makes the slightest effort to pursue peace he will be deposedby his supporters as he was a decade ago. The desperation comes whenAbbas asks for the UN to do what the USA will veto. The United Stateswill NEVER support a free and independent Palestine anymore than Israelwill.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >You are dead wrong! Thor 31.03.11 05:14As an American Citizen let me tell you that more and more Americans areunderstanding how Israel has been treating the Palestinians and nolonger listening to APAC and Israels propaganda about 'sharing values'and all freedom fighters being called terrorists etc. etc. We willslowly eliminate the APAC 'bought' members of out government. ThenIsrael will be forced to really share values with the US as in justice.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >The US is punting the entire issue to the EU. The US MAY fail to winanother round on the Security Council, by her OWN design Melissa 31.03.11 05:48 Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >I don't really think it's desparation on Abbas' part...not at all Giggles 31.03.11 06:34He's riding a wave right now, and if it crests - which indications arethat it will - there's nothing the US can do to stop it. It 'might' beinclined to stop a UNSC vote that would seek to enforce it - IF itreally wanted to - but that would be devastating to its internationalimage, don't you think?
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >mARK YOU ARE AWSOME mohamed ali usa 31.03.11 07:08WE SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE i COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER,I SAIDTHAT SO CALLED PEACE TALKS WILL FAIL BECAUSE ISRAEL DOES NOT WANT PEACE.MMURGOS1962@YAHOO.COM
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >You must remember that the UN may at a future date consider the actionto effectively OVERRIDE the US veto of the recent UNSC resolutioncondemning Settlements. Kiev500 31.03.11 07:23That vote may be overturned if no progress is made and Settlementconstruction continues.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 5.562View >What are we supposed to do asks Abbas Pauline 31.03.11 03:20Well Boyo you need to sit down and negpotiate not cliomb higher trees.everything is negotiable even settlements. But ya wont know until yousit a do it. If it doesnt work out then go to teh Un in teh mean timeshut and sit down and start negotiating stop teh posturing
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >Stop the settelments would be a great start! Thor 31.03.11 05:34Would kind of send a message. You know like Israel is serious ratherthan playing for time.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 4.8311View >Israel will fight peace until it becomes a crisis. Natallie Durson 31.03.11 03:07Israel can always count on America to bail them out in a crisis.Unfortunately Israel has chosen to ride the settlement pony until itdrops. There will likely be some surprises in the future for Israel.
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >From Nat's mouth to the Lord's ear. The Palestinians have suffered enough. USA 31.03.11 05:30 Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 3.5712View >Nothing has changed for 40 years...whats going to change in Sept John 31.03.11 03:05Israel has defied the whole world whats another few months? The realitywill come down on Abbas (the Palestinian people already know) that onestate is the best they can hope for and shift the struggled to equal rights
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt00View >The CIA is right-- it predicts one state with an Arab majority, ifIsrael doesn't support two states. Melissa 31.03.11 05:44 Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 2.6810View >Netanyahu is paralyzed at the wheel Logios 31.03.11 02:53Everybody can see the disaster approaching. And even if Netanyahuprefers to dream about a nicer reality, his partner Ehud Barak hasalready shouted in his ears (and ours) that this will be a politicalTsunami: Come September, the UN will recognize a Palestinian state inthe 1967 borders. After this, it will become extremely hard to acceptother borders, subject only to minor territorial exchanges. Israel willresist of course, but will slowly become a pariah state as a result(except possibly in the US where the process will be slower). It is soeasy for Israel to act now and avoid the terrible consequences! AllIsrael needs to do is to stop settlements activity now (for the next 6months only), and negotiate borders with Abbas. Notice that nobody, noteven the US, pressures Abbas to give up the demand of stopping thesettlement activity: It is justified by international law (againstsettling an occupied territory), and is simple common sense: You cannotnegotiate dividing the pizza while one side keeps eating it. ButNetanyahu is a political coward of unusual proportions. He is afraid ofthe settlers, a small minority, and of the extremists in Likud. Betterremember that after Sharon removed the settlers from Gaza, hispopularity soared and he was expected to win over 40 seats in theKnesset. Well, perhaps Netanyahu is afraid that Heaven will punish himby putting him into a coma...
Reply to this talkbackRate:topbt 1.608View >Things sneaking up on Israel. li 31.03.11 02:44Almost zero chance things will wait for September.
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